American Pioneer Powder 3F VS Triple Seven 3F

I did a quick velocity test with American Pioneer Powder 3F Grade, This was 80 Grains Volume (Which came out to 70 Grains in WEIGHT) Same .50 Cal Rifle, And Bullet as yesterday’s Swiss 2F VS Triple Seven 3F Test





This is some pretty Anemic Stuff, Triple Seven 3F BLOWS this Stuff away with the same Weight/Volume Charge, it’s not even close. Again, 80 Grains VOLUME (70 Grains in WEIGHT)


And Triple Seven 3F, 80 Grains Volume (70 Grains by Weight)

Something I thought was really interesting, Both of these Powders (Triple Seven & American Pioneer) Are both 3F Grade

Triple Seven is MUCH Finer, This American Pioneer 3F is every bit as Course as my 2F Grade Powders, With My Swiss 2F being finer than this


Zoomed in Closer

I plan to do some more testing with this American Pioneer 3F Powder, First I want to reach my Velocity goal which is 1,350 to 1,400 Fps with this 430 Grain Bullet. My next outing (possibly this morning) will be with 90 Grains by WEIGHT (about 110 Volume) and see what that gives me for velocity? If velocity is close, i will Group shoot as well

when shooting the triple 7 does the fowling wipe out like the swiss powder fowling does???

EasternOregon .50cal GPR wrote:when shooting the triple 7 does the fowling wipe out like the swiss powder fowling does???

Yes it does The swabbing mixture of Hoppes #9 and Isopropyl Alcohol mixed 50/50 Works EXTREMELY well. I use 2 Wet Patches, and 2 Dry

This American Pioneer Powder was a “Bust” for me, This will likely be my last go around with it

90 Grains by Weight (about 110 Volume) Showed 1,470 Fps over my Chronograph, But I don’t really trust that, This stuff wasn’t burning efficient for whatever reason? I am thinking 90 Grains by weight is just to much of this powder. I tried a 3 Shot Group and it was Horrible at best, The 3rd Shot was a Dud, It went off, But Hardly any felt recoil, and the Bullet didn’t even make it to the Target, The first 2 Shots were 8 inches apart  

In short, I don’t like this stuff at all, It is really Course and doesn’t flow through my Funnels, Very uneven Granules. This is likely where i will end with this powder, i am pretty unimpressed with it, a Waste of time and Lead in my opinion.

Shot some the other day, old stuff, shot like garbage and thats were its going...

It shot like garbage because it is garbage lol