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Post by McLoader 21/12/21, 03:27 pm

Hello I’m new to muzzleloading, and am looking for .58 Caliber hunting bullets 550-700gr. I’ve shot lots of big guns and BP cartridge rifles so I understand that heavy bullets cause recoil, but am looking for a good elk setup. Understanding .50 is probably a better caliber for my purposes, the rifle I have was a gift and want to set up something analogous to the No Excuses 600 (.50) bullet, in .58 caliber. Any help would be much appreciated.

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Post by John Willoughby 21/12/21, 06:38 pm

Check out buffalo arms company they have many cast bullet options.

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Post by McLoader 21/12/21, 07:31 pm

Thanks John

I found some 600 gr TC maxi ball bullets unlubricated. At Track of the Wolf. Any input on the TC maxiball conicals?

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Post by Admin 22/12/21, 04:45 am

I have not purchased Bullets from Track of the Wolf so I can’t speak for their Quality Control? I have purchased the 600 Maxi Balls from October Country and they were Horrible at best, Weights were off as much as 15 Grains, Wrinkled Bullets, Holes in them, Etc.

If i were you i would contact Dan of Bullshop Bullets and ask him what, if anything he has available in .58 Cal? Here is Bullshop’s Email address
bullshop@3rivers.net

The absolute best way to go is to Get setup and Cast your own, this way you are in control of the Quality of your bullets, and not stuck dealing with what you can find
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Post by George_Kelley 22/12/21, 09:29 am

A .58 caliber ball will kill elk.

That said, check out the Lee mold for their Minie Ball that has the micro-grooves, which are intended for their liquid alox bullet lubricant. That bullet has a very flat meplat and will hit hard.

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Post by George_Kelley 22/12/21, 09:37 am

https://leeprecision.com/mold-500-354-m.html

I am only finding a .50 caliber Minie ball with the micro-grooves and flat meplat and they're out of stock at the moment. They used to have it in .58 caliber, might be good to send them an email.
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Post by McLoader 22/12/21, 10:16 am

I had originally drawn the line that I was going to limit myself to available cast and lubricated projectiles. Go find that for a .58 in a 550-700gr weight! I did stumble upon some minie ball molds for 650 grain mold pattern, and I cannot relocate them now. Thank you for your help George.

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Post by McLoader 22/12/21, 04:29 pm

Ok I found a 644gr minie ball mold at Pedersoli. Anyone here have experience with Pedersoli steel molds? Also is the Minie a good idea for hunting to 200yd? Lots of info on the solid flat bases, but I’m not seeing many people making the minie part of their hunt and assuming there are issues with the minie for hunting? Also the rifle I have currently used musket caps vs #11. Lots of questions I know but will take all the help I can get,

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Post by Admin 22/12/21, 07:00 pm

I am out of loop with .58 Cal, I have owned 2 of them in the last few years, I sold them off without really doing anything with them for accuracy, Therefore I can only Guess what i think should shoot well in them?

Here is a .58 Cal Maxi Bullet by Accurate Bullet Molds, This is a MUCH better design in my opinion than the TC Maxi Balls which have Unnecessarily Large Lube Grooves
https://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=58-575M

And this is one I would rather have than ANY Maxi Ball, this is my i Bullet in .54 Cal, I would have Tom at Accurate Molds Cut one of these in .58 Cal Sources of Cast Bullets 3355125947
http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=54-485I

This one looks good as well, i bet this bullet would end up weighing close to 700 Grains Cast of PURE Lead
http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=58-645M
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Post by McLoader 22/12/21, 09:23 pm

That’s more info on getting a good start on the .58 than exists on the rest of the internet. I surely appreciate it. I had wandered if your ibullet could be scaled up. That’s the approach I’ll take. Thanks!

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Post by George_Kelley 22/12/21, 11:59 pm

A .570 patched ball driven by 100 to 120 grains of FFG will drop an elk at 150 to 200 yards if the rifle is accurate to that distance.

I would not hesitate to use a heavy conical, especially one with a good meplat. It just has to be accurate at that distance.


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Post by Admin 23/12/21, 06:31 pm

George_Kelley wrote:A .570 patched ball driven by 100 to 120 grains of FFG will drop an elk at 150 to 200 yards if the rifle is accurate to that distance.

I would not hesitate to use a heavy conical, especially one with a good meplat. It just has to be accurate at that distance.

I absolutely agree Sources of Cast Bullets 3355125947  I have been contemplating having a .58 Cal Roundball Barrel made, I have a 32” barrel sitting here that is an ideal candidate for it
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Post by George_Kelley 29/12/21, 06:49 pm

McLoader wrote:Hello I’m new to muzzleloading, and am looking for .58 Caliber hunting bullets 550-700gr. I’ve shot lots of big guns and BP cartridge rifles so I understand that heavy bullets cause recoil, but am looking for a good elk setup. Understanding .50 is probably a better caliber for my purposes, the rifle I have was a gift and want to set up something analogous to the No Excuses 600 (.50) bullet, in .58 caliber. Any help would be much appreciated.

.58 caliber really is better for big game.

Be sure to try patched ball with different loads. Also try different bullets. When you find out what projectile your rifle likes, get a bullet mold and casting kit. If money is tight,get your casting equipment from Lee. As for lead, talk to friends, relatives that work in construction. Have them salvage the used lead flashing from roof vents when they replace a roof to a house. You will gradually find other sources of free lead when you are on the lookout for it.

https://leeprecision.com/bullet-casting/
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Post by McLoader 29/12/21, 07:54 pm

Thanks George,
I’m going to start flinging PRB first as those are the most available bullets. Staying with .58 will mean buying casting equipment (I’ll b casting a custom .58 ibullet), but I keep hearing about the killing power of the .58. I’m anxious for next season to try it out.

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Post by Admin 29/12/21, 08:43 pm

McLoader wrote:Thanks George,
I’m going to start flinging PRB first as those are the most available bullets. Staying with .58 will mean buying casting equipment (I’ll b casting a custom .58 ibullet), but I keep hearing about the killing power of the .58. I’m anxious for next season to try it out.

You will be MUCH better off Casting your own, You have LOTS more Options when you Cast, and you are in Control of the Quality of your Bullets Sources of Cast Bullets 3355125947


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Post by George_Kelley 29/12/21, 08:45 pm

This website has really good information on casting bullets and reloading. The outdoorsman who ran that site passed away about seven years ago, his daughter keeps it online. Check it out.

http://castbullet.com/  

http://castbullet.com/reload/campcast.htm

In this online magazine you'll find no articles about fancy fishing rigs and magnum rifles. We believe that cane poles, trotlines, and nets are the best ways to catch fish. Cast bullets in the venerable 30-30 Winchester and in traditional muzzleloaders are the best ways to harvest deer. In our cooking section, you'll find only articles and recipes cooked on a campfire or in a camp Dutch oven with coals beneath it and in the lid. Our camping section contains articles and camping hints about tent camping only. In this magazine the words bass boat, magnum, inline, and RV are dirty words.
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Post by George_Kelley 29/12/21, 08:57 pm




Here is a video on casting ball as frontiersmen did it.
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Post by Admin 29/12/21, 08:59 pm

Thanks for posting GK, i have seen that Video and enjoyed it Sources of Cast Bullets 3355125947
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Post by George_Kelley 29/12/21, 09:04 pm

I think more people will get started if they can see how simple and easy it is to cast ball. Lead is free when you start salvaging it. Costs of shooting goes way down.
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Post by Admin 29/12/21, 09:06 pm

George_Kelley wrote: I think more people will get started if they can see how simple and easy it is to cast ball. Lead is free when you start salvaging it. Costs of shooting goes way down.

I thoroughly enjoy Casting, it is a Hobby that i am glad i got in to Sources of Cast Bullets 3355125947
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